Ep 16: God – Wealth – Health

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Hi I'm doctor Julie Ducharme, welcome to the authentically, you podcast this is a podcast where we get the interview people from around the world doing authentic things and I love it because I get to meet new people.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: They become new friends and I always say I, bring them into the family once they're in I'm, not letting them go today though.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Right before we bring in our guests I.

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Dr. Julie Ducharme: All right.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: So I am.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: So excited today for our guests.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: We have to Tariko and Tabitha <unk> Satterfield and they are on a mission to expose greatness.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Explain truth and execute results.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Their journey through life has provided them examples that 'cause they're audience to live life with purpose and build generational wealth through their brand exposure.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: They have launched exposure talks podcast with a mission to teach her audience.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: How to normalize hard conversation.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Exposure economy is their digital media platform that teaches and powers communities schools parents and students to expose their gifts as assets and equip them with tools to create impact in their homes and around the world they're blended family brings together eight lovely.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Children who inspired Tariko and Tabitha to cultivate fun, honesty and growth.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: While impacting the lives of others and serving God Tariko and Tabitha.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Welcome to the show.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Thank you for.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: <unk>.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: My gosh I just when I read eight, children I'm like I'm gonna just start paying right now, because God bless you I have to and I think they're a handful.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: So you have eight.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: So I I didn't, even like process this one we're talking off camera.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: So you have eight kids.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Okay.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Give me ages ages and names.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Okay.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: So are the oldest I'll start with mine we are a blended family.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Um so mine are this year.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Twenty eight, twenty seven, twenty two and twenty for.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: My.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: For our this year seventeen a fifteen.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Eight.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: And six and five actually [laughter].

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Oh, my gosh I'm gonna be calling, you guys for pencil <unk> I have eleven year old and a fourteen year we're in junior high right now.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Yeah, let me just she's a girl in junior high that's.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: All I gotta say [laughter], you need to pray for me that I'm gonna make it to the last half of the eighth grade, because I feel like I am in eighth grade, right now [laughter].

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: <unk>.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Um I have a freshman in high school and then I have a sophomore in high school.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: So I've been through it and <unk>.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: For <unk> times <unk> school years, go by really quickly.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Yeah, we cherish those moments and those crazy times [laughter].

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Well my daughter who's is fourteen she's like mom I'm gonna be driving soon and I'm like wait, what.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Oh my gosh, what <unk> and you know, she's like and I'm going to college in for years I'm like I, just I can't even process.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: This right now.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: So yeah.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: I'm gonna be sending you guys messages when I'm having my breakdown <unk>.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: [laughter].

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Gotta hormonal girl.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Right now.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: I need to talk to you about.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: So well that's great.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Well I would love our listens to learn about both of you I think you're doing some amazing work.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Um education is near and dear to my heart being a Christian myself obviously talking about God and helping people with their faith is so important to me as well.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: And I love you guys are talking about generational wealth and your identity.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: So we have some great topics to talk about, but I love for both of you to give a bit of your back story and how you came into this.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Yeah.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: No problem.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: I I I.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Do ladies first.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: But maybe if you want me to go first I'll, go first.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Okay.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: So I always defer to my wife first, but I I was born and raised in Jasper Alabama.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: And kind of from their grew up.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: In a very um toxic family environment.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: And growing.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Up in that toxic family environment I had great I.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Have an amazing family and like many of US my family just we have stories and we have personalities.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: We have the identity is that exist exist within the unit of the family that basically a cultivates environment that <unk> that created stress that created toxicity that created a so many other things and if you know anything about family, then you know that um many of US, what we become and what our families have become it's based on the experiences that they've had and many times we don't even know those secrets that are in our parents minds or in their hearts which is the bigger place and so for me growing up.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: I always.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Knew that there.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Was more.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Growing up in Jasper.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Alabama which.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: I love my home Jasper Alabama roll tide.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Bye away big big Alabama football fan.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: But.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Um, growing up and seeing that.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Really.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Challenge me.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: And it sent.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Me into life.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Ambitious for more.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Not knowing how to execute the more that I wanted.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: So.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: I begin and I and I and I fumbled and failed through life to be absolutely honest in transfer I failed through life went to college on a full scholarship I struggle through a high school.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Um but I went to college on a full a sinking scholarship.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: And um.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: And I got kicked out of college I.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Got kicked out of college for fight.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Now.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: I walked away from fights my entire life.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: I had some fights, but I I got kicked out for fighting and it was the first time for me in my life that I knew that I needed I needed.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Some help like there was some rage and anger because it was the first time that I got into a fight where I blacked.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Out.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: <unk> and.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: And and my life at that point was hanging in a balance and I mean literally that hanging in the balance.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: So as a teenager I.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Remember being.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Upset and angry about the toxicity I was living.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: In.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: And my parents seem to not ever understand it.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Even though they were very toxic themselves like they didn't see it they didn't recognize it as that they called it their relationship, right.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: They called it our family it was labeled this is your family and and this old phrase that's taught in most phones was talk to me.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: What happens.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: In this house <unk> stays in this house.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Well.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: It wasn't until then when I got kicked out of college that I recognize that that phrase that statement was the very statement.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: That brought me to that moment where I was now kicked out of college.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Because what was happening in my house.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: In.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: My body in my.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Heart in my.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Mind it stayed in this house and when it came out it was explosive it didn't just come out.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: It kicked the door down.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: And.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Literally the guy that I was fighting I tell people are.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: I.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Remember.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: When.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: I grabbed him that was the last moment I'm I.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Remember and and doctor <unk> this was right after prayer.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Lemme [laughter].

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Lemme lemme <unk> that is we.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Had just finished [laughter] <unk> [laughter] I was like something.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Praying.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Gotta be wrong.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: I grabbed.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Him after prior and this this individual had tried to hit me with a car.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: I had reported.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: It to all the Dean's and told everybody that was supposed to did the right thing, but nobody was defending.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Me.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Huh.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: And so I got to a place where again that's what it felt like in my life.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: It.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Felt like that my entire life that nobody was stepping up to defend me.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: And I literally lead out on this one young man.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: All the pain.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: All the anger before I know it I found myself sitting in front of.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: And.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: A my Dean.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: At the college and the police.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: In.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: My life, right then in that moment where this young.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Man's parents.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Was just trying to determine whether they were gonna Press charges on me or not.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Because I when I when I grabbed him, he blacked out.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: And so now.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: The parents were determining.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Whether they were gonna Press charges on me for attempting to.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Kill him Goss.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: And I'm sitting here like no that's, not that's.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Not what it was I was just I was angry I was just we were it was a fight, but it wasn't just a fight and in that moment I know that what I was carrying the vim that I was.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Carrying in my heart.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Had walked through life with.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: And so that was the first place for me that I I really started to understand that I needed to a really impacted venom because the vim was becoming a poison and a toxin to my own life and I didn't want that.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: And that's when I started working with young people a got really heavy heavily devoted to schools started to work in the schools a work as a in school suspension, our person travel around as motivational speaker I've been blessed to now work with over twenty thousand students.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Um, as well as different school district in different States.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Um in going.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: In and consulting with them and really helping adults to see a lot of times.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: We're, not really willing to.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Do that work with the young people that we say we want because for them to open up and to normalize those hard conversation.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: We're.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Not necessarily ready to have them because it would mean US unpacking some truths.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: About US and when we unpacked those truth.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: We they don't sit.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Well so I'm gonna stop right there.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: I have so much more.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: But.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: I'm gonna I'm gonna stop.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: And let my baby.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Get in.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Um hello I'm Tabitha Satterfield and um I was born and raised.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Um from both parents my mom and my dad in Manassas Virginia Manassas is where I remember when no one even knew that that city even existed.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: [laughter] and I, you know, my childhood my early childhood for me was very loving and we were very family oriented and um it was all about it really was all about US being together as a family loving each other supporting each other and I saw that from my mom and my dad in between them.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: And it was later decided that they were to split up, right as some families, do parents get divorced and it was the first time in my life when they split up that.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: My outlook on life, my perspective changed significantly it was the first time that I saw a black it was the first time that I recognize this function.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Um from from there I just had a lot of issues a coping with my parents, splitting as most kids.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Do and I found myself in a place of um.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Getting into wrong relationships.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Um with with mail and then eventually into my adult life.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Um with men and I found myself in a lot of traffic situations and a lot of abusive situations.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: And what that and what ended up happening was I ended up being a mother at a very young age.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Um my oldest son I actually walked across the stage with him I was pregnant and I never thought that I would be.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: In a position.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: To where I was a single parent I was a statistic at that point.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Right.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: A team mom.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: I never thought that I would be that I was a straight a student.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Um I had a full scholarship to go to college and um there was a lot of pressure on me in my senior year of high school uh to essentially not either carry on with the pregnancy or to give the child up for adoption and it was in that time that I realized that um a lot of myself value was destroyed at that point because I was looked at as you don't have anything to offer you don't have anything to give you have no education, you have no job, you have no money you know how you gonna take care of a child and it's.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Um.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: So it was really my faith in God at that point that kind of string me to push through and say no I'm gonna make it I'm gonna do it.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Um I am going, you know, I am strong in him and this is not you know this is not going to define me.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: You know in a bad situation and so I decided to um forego my scholarship I decided to raise my child and even through um even through the experiences.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Um that I had I didn't realize how broken I was and a lot of times you know, when you're a parent.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Um whether your mother or father there are things from your childhood that you know, you that are if they're, not resolved or you don't.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Take the time to heal through them.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: They just continue <unk> and so um for me it wasn't until after my fourth child um that I realize that while there's a cycle here what's going on what's happening what is it that's in me that's a that's, attracting the wrong kind of relationships in my life.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: And so um as a young mother and being a single parent um it's always it's been a desire of mine and a passion for me to work with single parents to help parents, because I know the challenges that come with that I know the challenges that come when your raising you know, children um there are challenges in um the child itself.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: So to speak right.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Because every child is not the same.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: So you're dealing with um a lot of um mental things as well with with your children and the dynamics a blended family and and whether there's an absent parent there or not.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Um whether there's involvement and so there's that is a whole nother story.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Um for me, but I know a lot of parents can relate to when you when you separate and you're.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: No longer with the person.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Um with that child's parent.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Um that things can get a little complicated and and can cause you know, drama.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: So.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: For me this is very near and dear to my heart to parents to help.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Help.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Children.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Um and and I wanna do it in a way that is is going to help them.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Not only just to help.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Navigate through those challenges and stresses.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: But for healing as well.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: The mother and the the child right.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: The father.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: And the children.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: So that is that is my story pretty much in a nutshell um their things um that as a parent you wished that um you could say okay, everything is perfect.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: And everything and I have arrived um but I have found um just in my in my own story with my children that um you raise them you give them everything and you do everything for your children and then you take those experiences to help someone else.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Yeah.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: That's that's that's part of my story.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: There.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: [laughter].

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Well thank you for both.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: You Sherry and being so transparent because I think it's.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: So important one as a parent when you when you become a parent your world changes and I know for me it's like oh I wanna give my kids the best life I want to have a better life then I had um but then reality sets in [laughter] you're like okay.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Like my child's never gonna have milk down in the store.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Oh [laughter] <unk> [laughter].

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Yeah.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Like my child's never gonna do that.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Right.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: And then you find yourself in a store after you've been experienced parent going up to the young parent being like it's.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Okay.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: I got you it's normal.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Um but you had some really key things that I think you're really important when you talked about um healing which is really important.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Um you talked about tough situations that the the whole comment what's what happens at home stays at home I've heard that a lot.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Right.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: And it it puts a stigma on that we can never talk about the struggles and I have many many friends who grew up in a toxic family environment and that's exactly what happened is they thought they couldn't talk about it and I think about our youth today and and and more than ever maybe it's because of social media.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: They are hurting you know, we hear that the the suicide statistics are skyrocketing students are depressed they're anxious they're cutting themselves I mean I never in my wildest man.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Would ever think that someone would be in.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: So much pain that they would cut themselves and this is something that's happening throughout our youth and so I think that this is so important what you guys are doing and it's really subways into what you have been focusing on is helping people learn how to have hard conversations and we talk about this a lot in business, right.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: That lot times leaders don't wanna deal with conflict when I was a young leader.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: I would literally get a stomach ache.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: If I, had to deal with conflict I mean literally be sick in my stomach and be like I, do not want to have this conversation with this person, because no one trains you on.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: How to deal with conflict really.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: All I ever saw is how my parents dealt with conflict or maybe my teachers.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: But that was it and so I remember just dreading it would be so stressful.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Um and obviously as the more experience I got the better I got it and and the less stressful it was but how do you guys help people have hard conversations.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: So the first thing is is really for me it's it's the deep dive and and willing to be authentic and honest.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Um.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Many of US when I talk about identity, many of US are not ready to be honest, right.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: And honesty is the beginning of really getting yourself to.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Help.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: I'm a personal trainer and.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: So when I train clients I tell them.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: I'm, not looking for your strengths.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: When I'm training, you.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: I'm actually looking for the areas where you're the weakest.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: And that's how we improve that's how you get better.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: So many times in life we've developed a culture of toxic positive itty talk a lot about.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Where we.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: All the great.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Things.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Well here's the problem if we really take a step back here's the hard conversation that we have to have as a society.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: We've.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Identified and given the teenage years an identity already.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: So most people.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Don't.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Have.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: A positive outlook identity about teams because if you hear.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Our words.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: That we use about those teenage years, you hear things statements like all my gosh.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: My.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Kids of team Ho.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: My gosh, they don't listen.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Oh, my gosh, what in the world is wrong with these teams.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Today [laughter].

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Oh.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: My God these teenagers don't get it together on my gosh I can't depend on these teams when we what we what is the future.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Gonna look like with these teams.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Yeah.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: [laughter] and and when you hear.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: That coming out of the miles.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Of.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: So many.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Adults and one teams here.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: This because they hear it not say anything, but they hear.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: They may.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: It my children taught me they said dad.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: My team's.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: You expect US to live a life of faith.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: But you don't even entrust US, an off to believe in US and off to let US go out and do that.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: So how do.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: You tell US to have faith, but you don't have faith in what you're telling US to have faith about.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: And and my daughter used that about dated.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: She said you you're always.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: So concerned you're always.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: So nervous about what's gonna happen to me, but that shouldn't you have faith that you teach me to have shouldn't, you shouldn't you instead of you being afraid and fearful and always saying I can't.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: So.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Do you can't do she said that your.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Strict.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: And this is what changed my life, my daughter said this when she was like eleven, she said and when.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: I'm ordered that I'm.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Not gonna come up.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Here and stay with.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Huh.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: And that made me as a father.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Have to have a hard conversation.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: With myself.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: So here's.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: The thing in order to have a hard conversation won't have them with other.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: You.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: People if you won't have them with yourself.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Um we were away from having.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Them with people dot because.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: We're.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Not comfortable having them with ourself in the mirror very very true.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Looking.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: My gosh I love that I.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Just wanna pause for a second, because that is really impact full really really impact full is that you know when I thought when you guys trying out.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Our conversations with other people, but so impact full to me that you're you're saying you need to have a hard conversation with yourself.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: <unk>.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: And that that in itself, right.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: There.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: So how do you get yourself to have that hard conversation because I think this is a powerful moment here that you guys are talking about how do we get ourselves to that moment.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: So here's what I had to do for myself.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: A baby and and you chime in whenever you feel like a baby, but I had to talk to Sean I had to um sit myself down first of all.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: And after all the things that the patterns tap to mention the cycles in life after all the cycles and the patterns after a three marriages that failed for me.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Three marriages.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: And I'm out here talking.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: The world, right serving in the community getting awards by city officials and traveling and speaking in schools.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: I.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Remember.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: The day that I set by myself I was in my house and I said on my porch I collapsed going out to work in the morning and I dropped and just started to ball my eyes out.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: And the reason I bought my eyes out was because I was out saving the.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: World.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: But I was internally dying and nobody even knew it.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: And so in order for me to have that hard conversation.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: I had to allow myself to have that real authentic moment.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Alone.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Without the audience.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: My children went there.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: My wife went there for me to blame.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Her.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: But my parents were in there for me for me to blame them.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: My past not there there was me in this present moment recognizing that I had billed this life of isolation where I was literally outside of that space that I was in I was running from everything else.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Was.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: And then that moment I had to I had to entail that moment.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: And say to myself it doesn't get better until you face this face.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: You.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: And in order to face you you have to sit with you, you have to be willing to sit with you that's, not turn the noise out like put the cell phone away cut the TV off and many of US struggle with sitting with ourself inquire.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: And so that's the first place I think it starts it's being authentic with yourself to to have the courage to pause.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: And sit with you and then write make a list of the cycles that existed in my life that I didn't want the things that were happening around me that were keeping me stop as I begin to make that list that list is now not.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Down.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: I had to.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Poison.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: That list is the healing list.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: We gotta.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Change.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: How we see the things that we're writing.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: About our story.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: The things that we're struggling in that statement God never fails.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: That's what it's about when your identity not wrapped up in the way that the world has described that list that we call failures.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Is.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Failure.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Has a lower and is related to success.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Nobody.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Has succeeded without fail.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: <unk> absolutely.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: So powerful and and I love that I mean really it's it's getting being willing to be uncomfortable.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Right.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Because.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: How often will we do.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Whatever we can not to be uncomfortable not a moment and everything you guys are saying really resonates with me.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Um one of the books I wrote was called authentically, you and power your way to success and and basically I'm talking about my path and how I had to realize that I wasn't on the right path and how I had to get have those hot hard conversations with myself and really be willing to be uncomfortable as you know, as you guys would say that God never fails and so true.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: You know both of you have you know, great.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Um pass that you've taken and of course you've had to go through those struggles and to have those regulations.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Um but something you said in one of your post was you know, um and I'm gonna summarize God never fails when this ships your identity it causes you to live fearless.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: So Tabitha tell me about what this means.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Well for me.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Um.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: It's it's very interesting, because for a very long time I struggled with a lot of insecurities.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Um about myself and who and who I am and it wasn't until I really got back into um the word again I had actually walked away.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Um from the charge for sixteen years actually um from from a relationship that I had it just ended up um where I stopped going to Church I stopped fellowship ng and was kind of like in my own a personal a spiritual growth.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: So to speak outside of um the body of Christ, right.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: So I wasn't reading the Bible as much.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Um I wasn't.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Um in prior as much and for sixteen years I had walked away and so I found myself in a position to where um I was constantly battling insecurities of of who I am and when I started studying when <unk> and I got together it was one of the things that we started to do together as a couple we started to get into the word we started to read scriptures more.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Um do Bible study and so I, do those in securities that I had I wasn't struggling with as much because of of whom God says I am that I am strong that hasn't given me the spirit of fear.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Right.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: So God never fails.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Got is always there and he always has been there and he always has been faithful even when I wasn't, even when I wasn't.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Um a full participant so to speak in the in the relationship with him, right.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: And for me I just look at my wife and I look at the mini.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Many times that um God has saved me that God has spared me.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Um that God has taken me with situations could have been um a lot worse.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Um but he protected me and he kept me and I'm grateful for that.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: And I'm thankful for that.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: So personally for me um that that's what it means for me that he will never let me down.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: He he will never let me down and that there's nothing more that he will give to me me that that I can't bear.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: So any situation anything that I'm going through as a parent as a mother.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Um just in life it is going to magnify more of the Street that's already inside <unk>.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Yeah.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: I love that.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Thank you for sharing that it reminds me of the the foot prints poem.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Um I don't know if you guys have heard that one before, but [laughter].

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Yeah, the the very last part of it is what I really really love I won't read the whole thing.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: 'cause I know, it's long, but it says the Lord replied, my precious precious chat I love you.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: And I would never leave you during your times of trial and suffering when you see only one set of proof foot prints it was then that I carried you.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: So I really love what you're saying and it's.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: So true and you know, we've talked about you guys are doing amazing work and I think one of the most one of the great things that you guys can do that.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: We can do is adults is be transparent with our children and honest, you know, we try.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: So hard to hide the things we've done that we think I never would want my kid to know that I.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Did that.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Oh, my God you know, I'm.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: So embarrassed, but really we have to be transparent with them, because if we want them to step past the paying that we've had and be able to heal we've.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Gotta be honest with them that's really I think it's really difficult.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: You know as apparent to tell our kids of our failures.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: 'cause we don't want our kids to look at US like that.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: You know.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: And so I appreciate that.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: And I.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Think.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: I know you guys are doing this in the school systems with school districts and and coaching and men train, but you know, it's really getting people to like you said B authentic with themselves to be real if you can know your identity in God, then you don't have to have an identity in anything else.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Because God's love is forever it's gonna stay there.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: So no matter how bad you are.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: No matter what you do.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: No matter how stupid you are and I think that that's something that definitely needs to be preached more because we have so many just bad things out.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: There that kids are turning to you know uh that's just out there you know the Internet is was a good bad thing.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Right.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: It brought information to US, but it also brought a tremendous amount of other things that aren't great now.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Um I know you guys are doing new podcast and you've got a lot of things going on.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: So I wanna make sure that I can direct people to where you're at.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: So what are the best way is one that they can get connected to your podcast that you're doing and also get connected to you.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: If they want you guys to come and speak or chat with them.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Um we wanna put that up on the screen or or put those links also when we post it out.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Absolutely so the first way to get in touch with US.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Um if you email US at info at exposure talks dot com, the that's the best way to reach Tappin <unk> for speaking engagements I'm, definitely.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Booking for twenty.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Twenty twenty twenty three.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Wow [laughter] I'm saying you're.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Like wow.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: [laughter].

Dr. Julie Ducharme: We're in a different.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Year.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: So we're booking.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Right now for twenty twenty three.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Um and we're excited about uh we're actually a working right now on a mission to go out to different cities to have these exposure talks normalizing hard conversations within schools.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: What we wanna.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Do is we wanna bring students into an auditorium and have some hard conversations.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: But the benefit from having a hard conversations with the students is for the staff for the administrators to really gain insight into what it is that their students are really experiencing from day to day.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: You know, it's one thing for US to put up the smoke and all the lights and stuff for the kids, but do we ever stop to really ask them if that is helping like do we do we really take the time to to here.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: What is that they actually need from.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: You as a as a leader in the school.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Or do we.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Just sit together as adults and we make a determination that the data says that kids need.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: This.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: And we're gonna.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Do this work.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: This is what we're gonna focus on as adults and the kids are.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: We call.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: It rebels.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: I don't call it rebelling they're not rebelling they're actually reaching.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: They're reaching for what they need and so we wanna have those conversations with a in cities all across the United States.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: So that we can help district to unpack really see how they need to service of the mental health of young people would they need to service engaging with families within the within their districts.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: And.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: How.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: But also how welcoming is your school.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Like you say it's welcoming and maybe it is at the front door.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Right in.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: The front office.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: But really.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: How welcoming is your school, like if I brought somebody to the front door or they just randomly called in what would that experience be like and I've been trained in that and doing what's called a welcoming schools.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Walk through.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: So.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: I'd love to go around and help district.

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: Kind of understand what that looks like for a family's and how we're engaging each other in relationship.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: That's.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Fantastic.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Well I love that.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: And you know what we need to do is have you guys back in like a year and you talk about all the amazing things.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: You've done [laughter].

Tariko/Tabitha Satterfield: You know.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: You can give US that data after you talk with all those students about what you're seeing because I know this is an issue across the line.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: My husband has been um, an elementary teacher for nearly nineteen years I've worked in academia for twenty three.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Um so we see them on all levels from the young age to the college age and it's important I.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Think now more than ever the work.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: You guys are doing is absolutely important or use needed.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Our you know, leadership needs to know it and you know, we need to do that.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: So I think this is great.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: So for those of you might be writing listening working out.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Not writing front of the screen.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: We will put all these links on there.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: So you guys can get access to them.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: You can always message US as well.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: And we will connect you with Tariko and Tabitha.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: Thank you so much for being on the show I appreciate your stories.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: What you're doing and excited to continue support.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: You guys.

Dr. Julie Ducharme: So thank you so much and as I always say live love laugh and always be your authentic cell.